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Choosing a Handgun Shooting Stance

Choosing a Handgun Shooting Stance

Whether it's the Weaver, Isosceles or an adaptation of either will depend on what the situation calls for.

By Paul Rackley, Associate Online Shooting Editor

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5/18/2011

There are multiple factors involved in shooting a handgun well—grip, aiming, breath control, hold control, trigger control and follow through—as well as keeping both feet firmly on the ground. A good shooting stance provides a strong, stable platform, which is crucial for accuracy.

In today’s handgun world, there are two main upright shooting stances—the Isosceles and the Weaver—from which other stances have evolved. While the Weaver is probably better known, the Isosceles is more commonly taught to beginners.

Both the Isosceles and Weaver stances have proponents, and both have certain benefits depending on the shooting situation. The Isosceles stance is a naturally defensive stance that provides excellent coverage in most directions by simply rotating the upper body like the turret on a tank.

The Weaver is often used by police, military and self-defense advocates because it allows accuracy while presenting a smaller profile. This stance is also very popular with actors and directors on both the small and silver screens because it appears professional. Countless movies and TV shows have popularized versions of both stances to the point that many shooters don’t know how the Weaver differentiates from the Modified Weaver, or even that there is a stance called the Modified Isosceles.

The Isosceles  

  • • Stand facing the target with your feet shoulder width apart.
  • • Bend your knees slightly.
  • • Extend the handgun fully toward the target keeping your arms straight and locked.
  • • With your shoulders squared, your arms form the perfect isosceles triangle from which the stance receives its name.

The Isosceles is the first two-handed stance taught in most firearms training classes, including NRA First Steps and Basic Pistol classes. It’s taught because the Isosceles is a strong, simple stance that is easy to remember under stress.

The Weaver

  • • Stand with your feet shoulder width apart with your strong-side leg slightly back in what is often called a boxer’s stance.
  • • Angle your support arm’s shoulder toward the target.
  • • Bend your knees while keeping your body weight slightly forward.
  • • Grasp the gun using opposite pressure with both hands.
  • • Keep both elbows bent with the support elbow pointing downward.

The Weaver stance was developed by Jack Weaver while he competed in “Leatherslap” tournaments in Big Bear, Calif., during the late ‘50s. Simply put, Weaver was the first to use a two-handed grip with opposite tension from both hands. Weaver’s push/pull grip stance provided speed, stabilty and accuracy, and he started dominating the popular shooting events. Col. Jeff Cooper quickly realized the benefits of this stance and adapted it for self-defense shooting.

Modifications
The Modified Weaver is the Weaver stance with the shooting arm fully extended to take advantage of the body’s skeletal system for accuracy. With the shooting arm locked forward, sight movement is minimized because the weight of the gun is held by both bone and muscle. Everything else stays the same including the reverse isometric pressure of the hands on the gun.

In the Modified Isosceles, the shooter simply leans forward on the balls of his or her feet for better balance and to help absorb recoil. This makes the stance more instinctive and easier to remember. For example, imagine your response if someone suddenly charged toward you. More than likely you would lower your center of gravity by bending your knees and lean toward your aggressor. This stance is based on the natural response to being attacked.

However, the latest stance to enter the handgun world could be called the Tactical or possibly the Fighting stance. This stance combines parts of both the Weaver and Isosceles stances and is taught at many self-defense academies such as Gunsite. It could be called the Tactical because many tactical and special forces units have gone to this modified stance, or a similar version, for its speed and accuracy and because it keeps the body-armored chest facing forward rather than exposing the uncovered armpit to a potential threat.

  • • Stand with your feet shoulder width apart. Your strong-side leg can be slightly behind the weak-side leg
  • • Keep your shoulders squared with the target.
  • • Grasp the handgun using opposite pressure with both hands.
  • • Lock the shooting arm forward while keeping the support arm bent with the elbow close to the body and pointing down.

Choosing a Stance
The choice of a shooting stance usually comes from trial and error, and comfort. Some shooters choose one universally, while other shooters believe that each stance has a use depending on the situation.

Personally, I am of the second set when it comes to shooting stances. I believe that every stance has its place in the shooting world, so I train in each and every stance in preparation of having to fire in whichever position would best suit the situation.

The simple fact is that there is no best stance, only the best stance for a particular situation.

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  • Russell Brahm

    5/2/2012 7:00:34 PM

    What do you mean by:"reverse isometric pressure of the hands" on the weapon?

  • Handy with the steel

    4/15/2012 3:36:16 PM

    Spent 3 years in the Infantry, 3 years as an amatuer mma fighter. We were taught what was essentially the weaver stance in the army[(]sappie plate facing the enemy[)] and for sport fightimg the weaver stance is used[(]what we call a fighters stance.[)] The most important thing i learned was muscle memory. What you do in training and on the range is what you will do in the field/cage. The post above me saying these stances wont help in a defensive shoot is nonsense. When the adrenaline starts flowing and you arent thinking clearly you will revert back to muscle memory. Ive seen guys ive trained with drill techniques every day in the gym that they never used in sparring then during a real bout if an opportunity presented its self they used the technique successfully because it had been drilled into body and mind so many times. As far as shooting stances go im biased because of my background but i can say that the weaver has some distinct advantages over the isosceles and over standing sideways. The most obvious advantage that no one has mentioned is balance,balance from being struck by a round and balance from being rushed by an opponent. If you get shot in the isosceles stance or standing sideways you will at least be knocked back or more than likely knocked down. Dont believe me? Stand sideways or in the isosceles stance and have close your eyes[(]so you wont know when its coming[)] and have someone shove you in the chest. Try the same thing in the weaver. And to the guy saying stand sideways so you dont get shot... if your exchanging rounds at close range expect to get hit, your best chance to survive that situation is to assume a solid stance so that you can quickly and accurately place as many rounds as possible into your opponents chest cavity, which is hard to do if you were knocked off balance because you were trying to look like john wayne standing sideways shooting with one hand

  • Not a Gunfighter!

    2/27/2012 3:44:42 PM

    It all depends what you are trying to achieve. If you want good target scores, the weaver gives a more solid support to withstand recoil and get back on target. The isosceles gives a better ability to pivot onto multiple targets at different angles. If you're going to rely on a handgun to save your life in a life or death situation, neither will do any good. By the time you have lifted your firearm to eye level, your opponent could well have drilled several holes into you. If you look at old timers e.g. Bill Jordan, Elmer Keith, etc, they were all exponents of rapid fire point shooting. They were both exceptionally fast AND accurate, because they practiced extensively with the one technique which works well in combat. If you have inexperienced opponent(s), you may do well with sighted shooting, but methods learned at the range will not help in combat, beyond instilling certain muscle memory connections. Fear and adrenaline will narrow your vision, make your hands shake, stop you from breathing, and make time slow to a crawl. You will recognize how clumsy and unresponsive your limbs are, you may not even be aware of firing your weapon. Your time at the range will probably give you an advantage over a criminal, but EVERY technique which is time proven, should be in your practice repertoire. And as much effort should be expended in reading behaviour, mollifying aggression, and mainly in learning to avoid situations in which these skills are likely to be deployed.

  • Amos Pickens

    2/18/2012 1:59:59 PM

    I thank all of you for your comments and knowledge on this subject. I even thank those who through their own ignorance fail to want to train in the most efficient ways possible to be able to defend themselves. The world seems to be going to hell in a handbag so to speak and the bad guys are winning. I think I will stick with the advice of the good guys. With their knowledge I have continued to survive. Thanks

  • Magnum

    2/7/2012 11:50:42 AM

    After many years of shooting with the Isosceles, i was rescently shown the Weaver. It made a huge difference in speed and accuracy. I highly recommend everyone to give it a try !!!

  • Angelo

    1/24/2012 7:46:20 PM

    I think what it boils down to is comfort. I am most comfortable using the modified weaver so that's what I use. If you're comfortable using the stance, you'll shoot more accurately from it.

  • Chuck,

    12/20/2011 10:30:10 PM

    I am old school in most things as I am old. However, for self defence you need to know you gun better than your partners body and what capabilities you have and the gun has. know your weapon, right handed, left handed, any and all positions. Make using your gun use instinktive. Practice, practice, practice!!

  • MTMind

    11/4/2011 7:49:59 AM

    After reading through the comments I am surprised that no one gives their background. I am an NRA instructor and coach for both youth and college and work at a public range were we have new shooters almost everyday. We start them on the benchrest. And once they are comfortable and ready then we have them stand straight up into the isosceles stance. I agree with the author that you should practice various stances the same as practicing various concelment/cover situations. It all comes down to the fact that there is no silver bullet that will make someone a great shooter. You have to follow the steps and do them all. It starts with building a solid position, get a proper grip and then go through the five step shot process. Changing or skiping any thing and you won't be successful with the shot. It's that simple.

  • The Cable Guy

    10/18/2011 10:04:00 AM

    you should shoot from many different stances and positions, you never know how your going to have to shoot in a defensive situation

  • JDS

    9/8/2011 5:18:15 PM

    Upon reading these comments, there are some valid points to everyone's view point. I am a firm believer in training, and activily seeking information from others. I recommend going to local pistol competions. Watch others as you compete. Learn from your observations and practise. Don't be scard to ask questions of these shooters with respect to thier training processes.

  • Thomas R Hasam

    8/24/2011 2:04:23 PM

    Practice using different Positions and use one handed stance as well using both right and left hands. Keep your elbow locked whenever firing a pistol otherwise if the pistol goes fully auto you are likely to shoot yourself in the head. Remember make yourself as small a target and as hard to hit as possible. Paper targets don't shoot back, bad guys do.

  • Big Joe

    7/24/2011 10:48:07 PM

    You will revert to how you trained. I'm an old Bullseye shooter-So I guess I'll be standing there one handed like Custer at the Little Big Horn.

  • reader

    7/5/2011 7:27:43 AM

    That's right. You use the same stance for everything situation: shooting around a corner, from on your back, if you're retreating or someone is charging you. Oh wait, no you don't. David B. I think I'll listen to the people who actually do this for a living rather than someone who just likes to critize with no real reasoning behind their arguments.

  • David B. Monier-Williams

    7/4/2011 1:44:53 PM

    "The simple fact is that there is no best stance, only the best stance for a particular situation." I don't know what your background is, but that statement indicates you need a whole lot more training and experience.

  • David

    6/8/2011 9:53:02 AM

    I had an interesting point of view given to me in weaver vs. isosceles although it seems worse to stand full body if you do get hit the bullet tends to hit only one organ now if you switch to the weaver and the bullet doesn't deflect from your arm it goes through both lungs and the heart. just a thought.