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Ruger's Gunsite Scout Rifle

Ruger's Gunsite Scout Rifle

Trying to answer, “Is Jeff Cooper’s ‘scout’ concept valid after all?”

By Brian Sheetz, AR Senior Executive Editor

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4/18/2011

Many of the best innovations have resulted from gifted individuals pursuing the answer to one simple question: What if…? For the late Jeff Cooper, one such question took seed nearly a half-century ago and ran something along the lines of, “What if you found yourself in dire circumstances and could have only one rifle with which to provide meat for the table and, in a pinch, ensure your own defense?”

Cooper, a retired combat Marine lieutenant colonel and devoted big-game hunter, was uniquely qualified to not only address that question, but to analytically evaluate it. He did so through a series of magazine articles and, in the 1980s, conferences held at the renowned firearm training center he founded in Paulden, Ariz., that today is known simply as Gunsite.

Cooper’s ultimate proposal, cited in his book “To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth,” postulated, “A general purpose rifle is a conveniently portable, individually operated firearm, capable of striking a single decisive blow, on a live target of up to 200 kilos in weight, at any distance at which the operator can shoot with the precision necessary to place a shot in a vital area of the target.” He would eventually dub the platform “scout” after its namesake military operator—an individual dispatched ahead of a main force to reconnoiter an area and who was reliant on his personal skills of evasion and on his equipment for safe return. Of course Cooper knew that a rifle that could serve in that role could just as well serve the civilian hunter, rancher or self-defense-minded individual, and so the requirements he outlined for such an “instrument,” while arguably somewhat arbitrary, were, nonetheless, rather specifically dictated by his considerable experience.

For hunting pursuits, Cooper had long admired the ’94 Winchester lever-action and the Mannlicher carbine for their handiness and natural pointing qualities. So the specifics he cited for inclusion in an archetypical scout rifle are not surprising: an overall length of one meter (39 inches) and a weight of 3 kilograms (6.6 pounds) for handiness; provision for a compact, fixed-power scope of intermediate eye relief mounted ahead of the action for simultaneous situational awareness and fast target acquisition; a facility for rapid reloading and/or extra ammunition capacity for adequate firepower; and, finally, a reasonably powerful chambering, preferably in the form of a short-action cartridge such as the .308 Win., for terminal effectiveness on quarry of 200 kilos (440 pounds).

Origins
In the 25 or so years since those criteria were established, scout aficionados have struggled to build their own “pseudo-scouts”—often at the great expense that typically accompanies custom gunsmithing—just as Cooper did during the platform’s development. And the concept tended to separate a relatively small but enthusiastic band of riflemen who “got it” from the vast majority who simply didn’t—or, for one reason or another, didn’t want to.

Cooper’s experimentation progressed through a series of scout prototypes built on bolt-actions ranging from a Remington Model 600 to a Brno ZKK Mauser action to a Ruger M77 Ultralight fitted with a rib from a Ruger No. 1 single-shot action. Ruger later legitimized the latter configuration as a factory pseudo-scout in the form of its now-discontinued Frontier Rifle, which whetted some shooters’ appetites and laid the groundwork for a more thorough execution. Surprisingly, it has been reported that Bill Ruger, when shown Cooper’s Scout III, the Frontier’s forerunner, was nonplused. Regardless, the Frontier could be considered the forerunner to the company’s latest offering: the M77-based Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle.

The new rifle is the result of several years of collaboration between Ruger and Gunsite, but according to Ruger Product Manager Mark Gurney, discussions that led to rifle’s development got underway in earnest in November of 2009, only a year before its launch. Initially Gurney and Ruger Media Relations Director Ken Jorgensen met with Gunsite Range Master Ed Head in Arizona to discuss the project. They returned to New Hampshire to iron out the details and create a list of potential features. They later revisited Arizona where both Head and Gunsite owner Owen “Buz” Mills provided key input on the project. Back in New Hampshire, longtime Ruger engineer Roy Melcher turned his creative mind to the project. Melcher had developed the Security-Six revolver series, had contributed heavily to the original Mini-14 project and had designed the 77/22 bolt-action rifle. He had been called out of retirement several years earlier when Ruger re-tooled the Mini-14 production line and product offerings. The Scout Rifle would be his final contribution to the company before his death late last year.

“The Ruger Gunsite Scout is a credible rendition according to Cooper’s concepts,” said Gurney. “It is not an attempt to blindly follow a strict recipe, because Cooper didn’t have a strict recipe. He had guidelines based upon an ideal, and Ruger and Gunsite followed those ideals as best we could while keeping costs and development time reasonable.” Gurney added that Head, too, “did not have a dogmatic, ‘this is the recipe’ approach.”

According to Gurney, Melcher took the laundry list and created the first couple of prototypes. “We initially wanted the gun to take M14 magazines and even thought about making our own M14 mag,” he said. But inconsistencies in how existing magazines presented the rounds for feeding into the action dissuaded the team from that approach. A second prototype had a polymer stock and fed from Accuracy Int’l-pattern magazines guided by modified bottom metal from Badger Ordnance. “We took both—the wood-stocked M14-magazine gun and the polymer-stocked AI-magazine gun back to Gunsite for Ed to wring out,” said Gurney. Both Mills and Head preferred the more substantial feel of the wood stock, and at 7 pounds the team decided that the quarter pound that could be saved by using polymer would actually be detrimental to the rifle’s shooting qualities. “Also [Head] was insistent that the stock have an adjustable length of pull, and doing that in polymer would have cost quite a bit more,” said Gurney.

What finally emerged is both a true scout rifle and one of only three widely available production scouts on the market. What’s more, it neatly fills the void in price and features left between the other two. The Steyr scout, which Cooper personally collaborated on with Steyr of Austria, is certainly more feature-laden with its integrated bipod, multiple sling points and integrated spare magazine stowage, but it is priced at more than double the cost of the Ruger. The only other factory option, Savage’s 10 FCM Scout, while now in its second iteration and featuring that company’s proprietary AccuTrigger and AccuStock, comes standard with only a four-round detachable magazine and is not significantly less costly than the Ruger.

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  • Shotgun18

    4/8/2013 10:36:23 PM

    When I bought my GSR I had no concern whatsoever for Cooper. What he or his devoted followers believed or wanted had no bearing on my selection of what I continue to find to be an excellent rifle for my purposes. I am not concerned with weight or tradition and have added a bipod because I like them and they help keep the dirt out. I put an xs rail on it to allow some mix and match optic options. I like the big magazine just like I liked a full bay of ammo on an AH-1G Cobra. I like the bolt because it is simple and rugged. I like the .308 for the utility over many target possibilities. All the moaning over what Cooper might have said, or what Ruger could have done to meet some personal preferences seems a bit juvenile. Firearms are tools..and toys..get what does the job and what makes you happy. In a world full of choices, this does not seem worthy of all the wrist ringing. Don't forget to vote.

  • Nick

    2/27/2013 8:41:31 AM

    I am a proud owner of the Ruger GSR. I am a soldier and find this rifle verry versitile. I went to break the barrel in and right out of the box was getting sub MOA.I have fired this rifle from several positions and have yet to have the 10 round magazine get in the way.The negative comintators can maybe find gandolf the wondering wizzard to craft them a magic wand the size of a stick that would be more suitable for them. I really think the bad review writers just dont like something different from there applications. thanks Ruger.

  • Balls McGee

    2/26/2013 4:00:41 PM

    I own one and I love it. REALLY accurate. One of the nicest rifles I own. Very maneuverable because of the short barrel. A great truck gun! Stuck a Burris Fullfield II scope on the provided rings and it's a damn fine hunting and defense rifle with quick target acquisition and a perfect fit when shouldering. Best $1000 I've ever spent on a gun. Only $1000 I've spent on a gun.

  • KSN Drywall

    12/6/2012 7:56:30 AM

    I have recently purchased a Ruger GunSite Scout. I have found this gun to be highly functional and accurate. I am shooting Federal 150gr through it and am experiencing 1.5in. groups at 100yds. I feel this speaks well of this rifle set-up. As with all M77 actions you need to make working the bolt with very distinct actions. Over all I feel the fit and finish of the gun is superior to most bolt action rifles on the market from a hunters point of view. Low recoil and very little lift upon firing. The iron sights are easy to adjust as well as the rear peep(ghost ring) is an excellent idea. I do reload so this will be interesting to build a load for this short barrel. I don't believe the controversy over the short barrel and loss of velocity.....is all that big of a deal if you use this rifle for its intended purpose. I find this rifle is fun to shoot, highly functional, great fit and finish, rugged without the ugly.

  • ownwe

    11/30/2012 9:33:45 PM

    For those wondering about availability of scopes, a handgun scope works fine as a long eye relief scope. And how many do you need? You don't need to put 10 different long eye relief scopes on your rifle... As far as the other "flaw", the short barrel loses <50 fps compared to the 18 inch and cuts weight. The flash hider is removable. The rifle is within the Scout parameters (weight being the issue, max weight for the Scout concept is 7.7 lbs, this weighs in at 7.5 lbs with a Burris scope and light rings). It isn't a 1000$ gun. I picked mine up a few days ago for 710$. Most of the /rage on here, I suspect, is from people who want one, can't find one, and have a tinge of jealousy. It's a sweet rifle. .308 is my favorite caliber. Looks far more cool than my R700, and is half the weight of my AR in 308, though not half MOA like the other two.

  • serg

    11/27/2012 12:35:04 AM

    love my ruger .308 great rifle

  • .44 magnuholic

    11/8/2012 3:39:02 PM

    It's pretty incredible how many people here are blaming the design flaws of this rifle directly on Ruger. I've researched this rifle quite a bit and I actually own one. To be perfectly clear, Gunsite (FOUNDED by Col. Cooper) had a lot of say in the characteristics and design of this rifle. Meaning, they found a manufacturer of already good bolt guns willing to allow them to create a new platform for a very niche market. Stop blaming Ruger for all the things you see wrong with this concept. And for what it's worth, I'd be willing to be 10% of the whiners crying about this supposed "abomination" to the scout rifle concept haven't even held, shot or worked the bolt on one. Please find another niche gun design to cry about, would you?

  • Mc

    10/26/2012 2:05:41 PM

    1000$ what a joke get the mossberg MVP

  • Bob Delano

    9/24/2012 2:51:56 AM

    When I return from this deployment in November my hopped up and ready RGSR will be waiting for me at my local FFL. Direct from the fine folk at Impact Guns comes their Xtreme Custom Shop Package that includes a trigger job for crisp 4 lb. pull, swivels and a Galco Ching Sling, a Harris bi-pod,forward mounted and bore sighted Burris 2.75x20 Scout scope, three additional magazines; two polymer 10s, one polymer 5 to go with the steel 10 that Ruger supplies, all neat and tidy in a good hard case. Total cost is 1550$. I'll let you know more about the package after running it through the paces. This is less than the sum of the rifle, parts, and labor, and it saves the time addressing any of my previous concerns that I had about the rifle on it's own merit directly as it comes from Ruger. It's worth a look. (And no, I don't work there!)

  • Mack Missiletoe

    9/12/2012 5:47:31 PM

    @ Thom McMillan: Try looking at it from the point of view of those who LIKE it. Your pov sucks! BTW it has a laminated checkered wood stock. Many of the negative thoughts you have are actually good--comparing it to a 1943 rifle, an M14, the large mag. We WANT that sometimes. If we wanted a 77 Hawkeye hunting rifle we'd buy that right? YUP! HRRRP DRRRRP The RGSR is both a hunting rifle and a '43 Enfield lol It's okay to have a decorated bolt action rifle. Look at all the iterations of the AR--but as soon as a 'different' bolt rifle comes out all the hunting guys flame and troll it. And you ALL suck for that! Go shoot your hunting rifle or AR-15's. We like a defensive/offensive bolt rifle and there's nothing you can say to change our minds. Though it would be nice in .223 and .243 with a 20" length copy of the barrel profile...

  • Mike

    9/8/2012 5:02:52 PM

    This rifle is a go getter. I do not agree with the negativity about this rifle. I live in FL. and most of the hunting I do is brush hunting. This rifle is light wieght, compact, with the bonus of 10 rd.s of 308. And reliability of bolt action. I love it. If u can't handle the recoil maybe u should stick to a 22. Lol

  • Thom McMillan

    8/16/2012 11:57:38 AM

    DUMB Idea because ... has a huge 10 round M-14 box magazine. Ver short bbl. (16.5") with attendant excessive muzzel blast and sound signature. The plastic stock is extremely thin at the wrist just behind the trigger - one can actually make the rifle flex at this point. The fixed power Bushnell scope (3 out of every 5 need to be returned for replacement as they are no good out of the box) has a mininum built in eye-relief of some 18 inches. If the scope is mounted, one cannot use the stock peep sights. The rings that Ruger ship with the rifle are designed to fit Ruger's grooved reciever ... but the reciever has a rail mount ... that requires after market rings to mount the scope. Chambered in .308WCF in a 7 lb package, recoil and muzzel blast are excessive. One cannot carry this contraption easily through the woods because of the huge magazine. The rifle looks like a bolt action M-14 ... The Lee Enfield from 1943 is a better execution of the basic principal, and allows one to mount a knife out front. What progress? The late Bill Ruger hated the concept but hey, it looks cool ...

  • [sad] Mack Missiletoe

    8/9/2012 5:49:14 PM

    I had to do what every parent absolutely dreads: I had to sell one of my children, my Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle. I did not want to sell my RGSR but I needed the $$. Lost my job. I just want every one of you to know that I really enjoyed my RGSR, It was a fien rifle and I do plan to again buy Ruger. I think I'd enjoy a .223 or .243 Ruger. Or another RGSR. I really wanted to put a silencer on it... oh well. Enjoy yours!

  • OneShot

    8/5/2012 3:12:42 AM

    All comments aside, This rifle is well thoughout,lamited stock for weather conditions. Replical well known mauser bolt action,free floting barrel and it being a .308. This not only a great looking rifle but powerful.I actually purchesed this rifle at a Big 5 for only 899, no complants here.

  • Gina

    4/5/2012 4:06:30 PM

    I wanted a 308 Rifle to have in my Jeep, however there is still to much of a controversy going about this GSS. I looks perfect, the flashhider,sights and a good weather proof stock. However again, I'm gona stick with my Win70 30.06 20in bl on a kev stock until the get this one figured out.

  • David libersat

    2/7/2012 9:27:19 PM

    Ruger sells a three round mag for $39.99. Finally got mine. Tried a long eye relief sight from hi lux. Do not recommend it. Put a Nikon 2x8 monarch on it. Had trouble getting the rifle to group. Trying to determine problem. Anyone else having grouping problem?

  • bzzyman03

    1/30/2012 10:18:51 PM

    One great looking rifle! I have one question: if I intend to use this rifle to hunt with (in CA) how do I comply with the 3 rd maximum cartridge restriction in this state? Does the magazine have a restrictor or does the rifle come with another low-capacity mag to comply with hunting regulations?

  • carter

    1/5/2012 2:05:39 AM

    I love mine fires like a dream. The bold could be alittle smoother but got used to it quick. Used open sights first time around now mounting optics

  • Gram

    1/3/2012 12:34:47 AM

    Like what I see and read about this rifle. Hope to have one in my hands soon. NOT an optics guy anyway. Fixed Sights,a Skill we have let go and should relay on more

  • Ralph Azgunnut

    12/15/2011 12:23:51 PM

    Mike is right when he says "if you like it, buy it, if you don't like it, don't buy it"

  • Trisatn

    11/8/2011 9:57:21 AM

    This is one sexy gun

  • Mike

    11/3/2011 3:19:30 PM

    I can't believe all the negative comments coming from stodgy crumugeons about a rifle they have never handled. I bought a GSR as a coming home present to myself after a rather difficult deployment overseas. I love it. It is the most accurate bolt action rifle I have ever owned and about the handiest. I LOVE the flash hider. I LOVE the barrel length. I love the 10 round magazine. This rifle is just about as perfect as can be for its intended purpose, that is a rifle that can do it all reasonably well. You Fudds can keep your three round internal magazines, and your glass-optics only hunting rigs. If you don't like the GSR, don't buy one. For many of us, its perfect.

  • XRGRSF

    8/14/2011 11:57:15 AM

    Considering the comments on available scout scopes shooters should consider the option of pistol scopes on scout rifles. I have a Leupold Scout Scope on my Marlin Guide Gun (45-70). However, I have Burris 2 to 7 pistol scopes on both of my scout rifles. The pistol scopes mount just forward of the ejection port, and the eye relief is perfect. The variable power pistol scopes work like a charm, and the added magnification makes engaging small targets or targets at long range vastly easier. Try a variable power pistol scope; you'll like it.

  • XRGRSF

    7/31/2011 2:10:16 PM

    Ruger failed to incorporate TWO of Cooper's required features in their Scout Rifle. The magazine cannot be topped off while in the rifle nor can the rifle be fed with single rounds. The use of the M-14 mag would have been an enormous advantage, and solved these glaring problems. I have converted Ruger 77s to use M-14 mags, and they work just as well as the original fixed mag. It seems to me that Ruger is more interesed in making money off of selling magazines than they are in providing a superior product for the American shooter. What a shame.

  • chuey

    7/28/2011 8:52:51 PM

    all comments are interesting to say the least. i hope ruger is listening. maybe they can't do anything to the looks and the mechanics of the rifle. but maybe they can for make it available and lower the price so we can some how support there cause of donating there 1 million dollar donation. there is a job and money druaght going around the country. i would like to know where i can maybe go look for myself to buy one. but nobody seems to carry them in california. everyone keep up the good work. psalm 144:1

  • ntrudr_800

    7/13/2011 6:14:39 AM

    Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm IER Scout. It comes in different finishes so it is best to check out the website or go to MidwayUSA.com. Here is the link on Leupold's website http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/fx-ii-riflescopes/fx-ii-2-5x28mm-ier-scout/

  • sbryant

    7/11/2011 5:03:22 PM

    Have looked all over Leupold site no mention of the test scope, can someone give part/order numbers for the scope and rings used on the test rifle in the article

  • scott mcdermott

    6/15/2011 2:32:24 PM

    can someone tell me what scope rings were used to mount the Leupold scope in the article? thanks

  • David LeFevre

    5/8/2011 6:54:54 PM

    Please identify the scope rings. Thx.

  • Ned N. White

    4/23/2011 8:24:10 PM

    I got a kick out of the Ruger, gunsite Rifle. I have owned a Bolt 308 with detachable box mag for almost 20 years, I always said it was a great rifle, An 1895 Chileano Mauser with Aim-point site. Re barreled by Nato for 308. A very nice stock with steel buttplate. No iron sites. I saw the new Ruger and said, That's my rifle!

  • Matt S

    4/22/2011 11:16:29 AM

    When I read this article I just kept thinking to myself, "This sounds an awful lot like the Lee Enfield No. 5 jungle carbine from WW2". And thats not a bad thing. I always liked that design but never could find a good one for a price I was willing to pay. Maybe what Ruger should have done is simply make updated versions of the No. 5 in modern chamberings.

  • ntrudr800

    4/21/2011 1:24:50 AM

    I could care less about how perfectly true to Jeff Cooper's vision my Ruger GSR is after firing it. His opinion was used in influencing my Ruger GSR, & that's enough. Not everyone has the same exact idea of what makes a scout rifle what it is. Like weight-limit for instance. I personally want a very thick barrel for a rifle that will be used for quick shots, so it'll weigh more. I also love the 10-rounder. So the Ruger GSR is great. I wish the barrel were an inch thick, but it ain't a bad start. Go hold one before you start complaining! Something I noticed is that everyone always complains about how a certain scout rifle is not exactly like Jeff Cooper's. Well guess what? I'm not Jeff Cooper--& neither are you! The Ruger GSR got it right. It is dynamic like the m15, but it's a bolt like the k98k. Very fun :) I like everything about it. It has a lot of features versus the basic hunting rifle, that's why it costs more. Go hold one & be open minded. Even if it's not your cup o'tea, remember it ain't just for hunting deer.

  • Paul

    4/20/2011 9:23:37 PM

    So why the forward mounted scope if you have a detachable magazine? Just mount the scope where it belongs (say an ACOG) and use the magazine to reload.

  • FormerFlyer

    4/20/2011 5:45:13 PM

    The Col. probably would have appreciated that this rifle was available, but he was fairly intolerant of folks that renewed their efforts after they missed the objective. Ruger came pretty close, but some of the design elements are downright ignorant. By insisting on a 16.5" bbl for handling, then adding the world's ugliest flash hider, they've got all the problems of an 18" bbl without the benefits. The muzzle blast from the 16.5" is astonishing, made worse with the flash hider. And the difference in velocity between a 16.5" and an 18" .308 is substantial! Using the a synthetic lightweight stock and a longer, slightly thicker barrel would keep the weight the same and move the balance slightly forward for better handling. Flash hiders are an anathema to the design parameters of a Scout (shoot seldom, rely on discretion and movement for security). The Harris bipod is specifically called out in his writings as an abomination. The magazine hanging down right at the point of balance, ruining the ability to carry the rifle comfortably in one hand. . . . So many easily correctable design decisions, and they clearly didn't care about what the Col. actually wanted. They wanted to use the name, but couldn't bother to make simple adjustments. This rifle is a swing and a miss.

  • Mike

    4/20/2011 10:54:35 AM

    Well Now, The Ruger Scout is NOT what Jeff Cooper visioned. Years ago, I read all his concepts and a military cross breed is not what he envisioned. Simplicity, performace and comfort , YES. A Fixed power scope for simplicity WITHOUT the bells and whistles hanging all over what should be a nice rifle. While interpreting his writings, I decided to buy a scout, out of the box that would perform like his vision. It was a Remington 700, Fixed 6 power Redfield, and Redfield mounts and rings. It is 7mm EXPRESS ( 280 cal. loaded up for peak performance in a BOLT ACTION RIFLE ), Glass bedded the action and floated barrel. One shot Clean kills up to 400 yards for me. Wasn't a need for a military, BULKY and UGLY 10 shot magazine hanging in the way. The concept that the Ruger Boys came up with is strictly THEIR CONCEPT, NOT COOPER'S !! I Love Ruger firearms but they should claim everything on their own and don't use Cooper's name on something like this. You guys keep up your good work but please use caution when riding the coattails of good men that can't give you their opinion any longer. If Ruger wants to build the Military looking junk, fine ! We old timers aren't buying this crap. Don't lose your CLASS. Mike

  • LaramieRancher

    4/20/2011 10:10:16 AM

    Comprehensive review, but almost totally ignore the problem of optics. How many "long eye relief" scopes are available? Two? Three? For those of us who are older, optics become mandatory, not optional, and this problem needs to be addressed, not glossed over.

  • FeedDog

    4/18/2011 7:24:13 PM

    Nice rifle but why so expensive?