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Handgun Stopping Power (Page 2)

Handgun Stopping Power (Page 2)

The author fired 100 handgun loads into ballistic gelatin, measuring velocity, penetration and expansion for each.

By Richard Mann, Field Editor

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What about bullet weight and energy? Energy, kinetic energy, is a product of bullet weight and velocity, but two bullets can have the exact same energy and create substantially different wounds based on how they work, how they expand and their path in tissue. Realistically, it makes no sense to base performance on the potential to do work—kinetic energy—if that work is not done. With regard to bullet weight alone, Finn Aagaard, a much respected gunwriter and very experienced big game hunter once wrote, “Given sufficient penetration, what does any additional bullet weight add to killing power? Nothing, absolutely nothing.”

This leaves us with the more logical approach of basing stopping power on terminal performance—what occurs after bullet impact—not external ballistics. Impact velocity, bullet expansion and actual penetration would seem to be the pragmatic guide to the determination of effectiveness.

A bullet that expands creates a larger wound cavity. The more expansion, the more tissue that is damaged, destroyed or traumatized. Multiple tests have shown a correlation between large wound cavities and bullets that expand at least 1.5 times their unfired diameter. However, over-expansion and/or fragmentation to the point the bullet loses a lot of weight limits penetration and penetration is important. The problem is that deep penetration without expansion is notorious for slow incapacitation. Hunters and gunfighters will confirm this and the reason is that bullets that penetrate really deep and expand very little damage small amounts of tissue and cause minimal pain. Still, if we hope to penetrate the vitals as a failsafe to the possible lack of our attacker’s ability to feel pain, “sufficient penetration”—like Aagaard alluded to—is important.

And then there’s impact velocity. When you combine high impact velocity with expansion, wound cavities get very large. This should not come as a surprise. The .38 Spl. and the .357 Mag. shoot the same caliber bullet, but the .357 Mag. pushes it much faster and has a much better record for stopping bad guys. When comparing their performance in 10 percent gelatin using similar bullets, the difference is obvious.

So, should you carry the combination you think will cause the most pain or the one you think will penetrate through to the vitals no matter the shot angle and regardless of what gets in the bullet’s way? Common sense should tell us that the failsafe, penetration, is our first priority; if pain fails to stop the attack—and it might—we have to rely on the bullet’s ability to drive through vital organs. The ability to inflict the maximum amount of pain should be our second goal. This makes choosing the handgun/bullet combination simple—you want the combination that penetrates to a sufficient depth and damages the most tissue in the process.

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  • AΩ357

    4/17/2013 3:04:15 AM

    Confirms my personal choice: Coonan Classic .357 Magnum 1911 Auto with Barnes VorTX Hollows.

  • Ken

    3/22/2013 6:00:13 PM

    The answer is simple! Buy a 357 magnum and Rest Assured....

  • swshooter

    3/2/2013 6:07:56 PM

    Problem with this test is the use of the recovered bullet diameter. Most obvious in the low rating of the 357 mag loads and the 10mm. The high velocity loads lose their noses and the recovered diameter bears little resemblance to the maximum diameter achieved during the bullets transit of the medium. Does anyone really believe that any 380 load is a superior stopper to any 357 mag hollow point load?

  • JOHN

    12/16/2012 2:52:20 PM

    I notice that there are many posts like the ones below. Everyone is getting technical with what round will do this and what round will do that. The difference between a 1/4 and a 1/2 inch of penetration/expansion is not going to make a difference on an intruder. Not only will their adrenaline be maxed but so will the person who is trying to defend themselves. Instead of all these calculations try sprinting for 50 yds and then try and hit a paper plate sized target from 25 yds with a pistol. Most individuals will miss completely so the penetration and expansion would not be a factor. Each person has the right to defend themselves in whatever manner they see fit. The best ammunition for self defense is no other then 12ga. 3in.00 buckshot. One shot from a full choke barrel would be more then sufficient and is simple enough for women and trained children to operate. Also,this method takes away from the notion that "excessive force" was used.

  • Jon Bee

    9/21/2012 5:36:50 PM

    I think a man-stopping pistol or revolver starts with a 4-inch, 357 Magnum shooting 158 grain, expanding-bullets. I have never shot anyone but have shot wild domestic boars weighing 250 to 400 pounds,Deer (bucks)weighing 100 to 200 pounds and for sympathy or slaughtering purposes have shot sheep, cattle, horses weighing from 150 to 1150 pounds. for hunting purposes I base the cartridge to be used on on certain weight game as follows: LW = BD^2*BV^2*BW^3*200/7000^3 BD = bullet Diameter (in) BV = Bullet impact velocity (fps) BW = Bullet weight (gr) For this to work some conditions have to be met: A hit in the vitals area of the lung heart and liver area Heavily damaging two or more organs, The live weight of the animal or adversary's weight has to match or exceed calculated live-weight (LW). The bullet has to expand 1 1/2 to two time its original diameter and penetrate to the skin on the off side. It has been my experience that an animal so hit will expire 10 seconds or less. To stop a charge or an adversary with a weapon the LW value needs to be doubled!

  • Donald H. Conner

    9/14/2012 7:19:27 PM

    This is a very detailed and well-presented paper. There is more here than most could ever hope to remember. The author is to be commended for his peseverance and compilation of his findings. I read and re-read this article, amd found no reason to change my choice of caliber or ammunition. Why? Because the United States government has more money than anybody, and more resources and people to arrive at an acceptable conclusion. Which is to say succinctly: the Winchester PDX1 and the Remington Golden Sabre (just a new dress on the Black Talon)in .45 ACP with a 230 grain hollow point projectile meet all FBI specifications and are authorized for use in the .45ACP format. So, our tax dollars have resolved the issue for us: When in Rome, do as the Romans do. With a 14 round magazine and 1 in the chamber, my Springfield 1911A1, and two extra magazines, I have a total of 43 rounds immediately accessible. In all but the most unlikely circumstances, that combination should suffice. If it's good enough for the FBI, it's good enough for me, and it obviates learned counsel's protestation's of "too powerful" "too deadly' "Too 'whatever'". I'm shooting to stop the attacker and to survive. As soon as I can escape and/or he/she ceases to be a threat, I'm done shooting. Respectfully Donald H. Conner

  • Chris

    9/14/2012 9:30:44 AM

    If you really want to learn about real world ballistics go here, http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

  • doug

    9/13/2012 7:37:18 PM

    10 mm 180 grain black talon.

  • Gary

    9/13/2012 12:26:56 PM

    If you are about to get mugged by an unarmed BG, whipping out your mouse gun will probably send him on his way because "having any gun on you is better than a bigger one at home." But what if the BG is armed with a more powerful gun than you have? After you shoot each other once or twice, you will probably die on the street and he will probably go to the hospital. That's your bad! At some point you have to sit down and give saving your life some serious consideration. Do want to carry a "feel-good" gun just because it is COMFORTABLE to carry or do you want to carry a gun that is COMFORTING because it can save your life? It seems that most people think they can carry any gun they want because shooting BGs is no different than shooting targets. If you can put two in center-mass, you're good-to-go on the street. Too bad their fantasy doesn't include the BG shooting back.

  • Physboy

    9/13/2012 11:28:21 AM

    .357 Sig ignored, only one caliber for 10mm tested. Laughable choice of ammo to test. I guess the .327 is waaaaay more popular...

  • SecurityPRO

    9/12/2012 10:54:01 AM

    The chart shows a 10mm with a 135 gr 1588fps making penetration of 6.5 inches?!? Someone made a serious mistake or forgot the second digit! Anyone reporting better ballistics from a .380 than from a 10mm is smoking something!!!

  • Tellis

    9/11/2012 4:59:26 PM

    I second the motion for arming ANYONE with whatever they can handle and more importantly, WHATEVER THEY ARE LIKELY TO CARRY. The gun you have with you is 1000 times more effective than the one you left behind because it was too heavy, too bulky, etc... Most criminals work by intimidation. A potential victim merely showing intent to resist is often enough to end an attack. Showing intent to do so with a gun - any gun - is much more likely to send them on their way. Until the popularity Semi's by drug dealers in the 80's, the .22LR was THE most deadly caliber in the FBI's records! Not because it IS deadly but because it is popular. Again, it is the gun you have that's most likely to be your best defense!!!

  • ron taylor

    9/11/2012 9:52:16 AM

    I have a friend who is a very experienced pistol shooter. His strategy is to have a FMJ every third round in his magazine. That way the BG can select the round he really doesn't like. I would like to see results for the Fiocchi 124 gr. truncated cone round.

  • Unclenick

    9/9/2012 9:24:48 PM

    One problem with attempting to establish relative stopping power is the various thresholds involved. Some bullets have narrower bands of minimum and maximum impact velocity over which they perform well, even in a homogenous medium like ballistic gelatin. As a possible example, I’d guess the bullet in the 10 mm round had exceeded its best penetration velocity. Be interesting to learn what it would do loaded down. I know that’s counterintuitive, but think of too much impact velocity like doing a belly flop into a pool from too great a height. The faster you hit the water, the harder it is, so you have to be built to take it. For the bullet that means not coming apart and losing SD. I’m not convinced of the predictive value of kinetic energy in handgun ammunition, either. I put the FBI test data from the firearmstactical site into Excel, and found a significantly better correlation between permanent wound volume (based on expanded diameter and penetration) and momentum (R=0.78) than I did to kinetic energy (R=0.41). I think the difference in kinetic energy is mainly playing out in temporary cavity size, and that’s subject to all the pain response limitations discussed earlier, as well as to the chance of hitting the right spot to get some pressure wave conduction to the CNS. Counting on either doesn’t seem like something anyone should stake their life on.

  • Ray L

    9/8/2012 3:57:46 PM

    Having been in a few firefights with military weaponry, and teaching female relatives in self-defense, the best advice given is to use the weapon you are capable of handling. self-confidence and training more important than bullet size. My personal carry is Kimber "Shorty" .45 with Corbon powerball.

  • Pumpkinslinger

    9/7/2012 10:19:22 PM

    Kinetic energy gets poo-pooed by some but it is a calculation of a bullet's ability to do work. A bullet's KE is used to damage the target, deform the bullet, make noise and make heat. In the .38 Spec/.357 Mag example the faster bullet does more damage because it has more energy. However, you always have to keep the bullet design in mind. Think of a .223 rifle shooting a "Varmint Grenade" or a TSX of the same weight and at the same velocity so they have the same KE at impact. The fragmenting bullet will cause a shallow wound while the monolithic may completely penetrate. KE isn't a magic number but it is an important number, as long as you’re comparing apples to apples.

  • Miguel

    9/7/2012 9:10:20 PM

    These comparisons are interesting and as always the discussion continues.What is ignored in all of these tests is the foot pounds of energy that each bullet produces at point of entry into the bad guy. A 40 GR .22 LR bullet travelling at 1200 feet per second does not produce as much energy as a 230 GR .45 cal. bullet or other large caliber bullet.travelling at 900- 1200 feet per second.The energy that the bullet releases,when it hits,is what does the damage and can knock you off your feet.For those that do not understand what a foot pound of energy is.It is the energy that will move a weight of one pound a distance of one foot.So when a heavy .45 cal. bullet hits the bad guy it will release several hundred foot pounds of energy. That's enough to move the heaviest intruder back several feet provided that as much of that energy is dissipated into the body through expansion of the bullet.A solid nosed bullet will retain most of its energy and pass through the body unless it hits bone.

  • RichardD

    9/7/2012 4:20:45 PM

    This article is the best and most balanced summary of handgun stopping power I have read, and I have read plenty. (Many of them with a bias toward or against certain calibers.) I offer two observations—one trivial and one that may be of some interest. The trivial one is that one of the best rounds is the .45 Long Colt. It loafs along at barely 700 fps (read that easy shooting, quickly back on target) yet it penetrates a full 12 inches (the benchmark for optimum balance between enough and not too much) and it expands more than all but two of the other rounds tested and it already started out pretty big. Those old black powder cowboys must have known something . . . The other observation is that the chart is useful for comparing cartridges of the same caliber but not so useful for comparing between calibers. The expansion factor only tells you the size relative to the initial bullet diameter. A .22 bullet with an expansion factor of 1.33 (the average for the caliber) is still a lot smaller hole than a .45 that does not expand at all! A better comparison would be the actual cross-section area of the expanded bullet. In other words, how big a hole did the bullet make. This assumes that the bigger the tunnel created by the bullet, the greater likelihood it will stop the fight. Suggested formula: bullet starting diameter (in 100ths of an inch)(1 mm = 4/100”) x expansion factor, divided by two (for radius), squared, multiplied by pi (3.14159) = area of hole created by passage of the bullet. The answer for the .22 is .06723 for easy comparison I called that 6.723. Other calibers (based on chart averages) are: .22 = 6.723; .32 = 15.99 but note low penetration; .32 mag = 15.54; .327 = 25.72; .380 = 22.30; 9mm = 25.09; .38 = 20.76; .357 = 20.19 but note high penetration; .40 = 35.89; .45 auto = 29.42; .45LC = 48.71. Just another number to throw into the discussion. Speaking of numbers, is there any scale for hydro-shock value? Richard D.

  • Stepcof

    9/7/2012 1:48:59 PM

    Is that a typo on the 10mm? Only 6 inches? It's a 40cal bullet with additional powder. All the 40 caliber rounds did better.

  • JohnCfromMD

    9/7/2012 8:43:13 AM

    I hunt deer with a muzzleloader (60 grains of FFG, 240 grain lead .45 caliber flat nosed pistol bullet from a Knight Rifle, velocity about 1,300 fps) and a 7mm Remington Magnum, 140 gr. Nosler soft point, at 2950 fps. I prefer the black powder load because the hydrostatic shock caused by the bullet is at a lower frequency and lower amplitude and it produces less bloodshot (spoiled) meat. Clearly, hydrostatic shock is a very important factor as it can stun and tear vital organs (lungs, heart, cardio-pulminary blood vessels) even if the bullet's path does not go through the organ in question. As always, a humane kill (as, I assume, a "stop") requires proper bullet placement. I find both calibers equally effective in killing a deer...but then again, If I don't have a clear shot, I don't take it.

  • Chris Singletary

    9/7/2012 7:52:32 AM

    Expansion factor is relevant compared to original caliber but why not just report it as expanded diameter (aka wound channel diameter). As presented it makes little sense. Someone is going to see that and come to the conclusion that a .380 expansion of 1.37 is the same as a .40 1.37 and that is misleading. I agree that hydrostatic shock was also not mentioned though I think it is partially implied in the bullet velocity. Why couldn't it just be boiled down into an effectiveness column??

  • m-14 sniper

    9/7/2012 12:51:40 AM

    I have to agtee with Hawley, you shoot till they go down. If your gun doesnt hold enough, reload fool! What about hydrostatic shock,a known killer,but also creats substantial tissue damage. Author seems to have rrached results to justify a pre- concieved conclusion. According to the tables the .380 is just as good as a .45, when.in fact we knowa .45 is a proven stooper and a .380 is to say the least , not. A lot was missed by author. This is a very complex subjet and the data here is superficial and of dubios use. The main thing for carry to remember is carry the biggest gun you can hit with. It does no one any good if you miss!

  • Derek

    9/6/2012 9:33:00 PM

    Simple stuff. Present your gun point and shoot until it's empty. Eject your mag. Load next mag. Chamber and continue to shoot until it's empty. Threat over.

  • Homer

    9/6/2012 9:02:29 PM

    Astra A 100 small frame 45 ACP. Chambered and second rds r Blue Glazer. Nxt 7 r hydro shock. Pls pass the nxt clip. All 9 r hydro ahock. If at this point u r not dead then go ahead and kill me. I dont deserve to live.

  • spymyeyes

    9/6/2012 6:18:19 PM

    Why did it stop at 45LC? What about 454 casull & the S&W 500 rounds? Very disappointing it is incomplete, innaccurate, and leaves a lot to be desired for following a standard format consistantly with explinations.

  • MR

    9/6/2012 4:18:40 PM

    I see all posts are well pass away, any how, I have used shot encapusalated 22WR's convided with 22WR brass in a 2 Shot Derringer, shooting fase first wuith Shot shell and inmediatly solid one to the blinded guy, that in my idea wiyh yhis little consealed weapon I have given to family for present meny years ago. Hope en article on this kind of weapons an Shot ammo as a defense arm.

  • kenneth k.

    9/6/2012 4:13:14 PM

    I carry two handguns off duty. either it will be my S&W .500 w/.440 hard grain. Or I will carry my Desert Eagle .50 W..300 grain XTP round or the .350 grain. Why was these rounds not tested?

  • Richard W.

    9/6/2012 1:03:05 PM

    Did my own "test" some years ago -.45ACP, about 10 different loads, included Black Talon, Detonators, "Flying Windmills" etc. THE BEST was 255 gr Keith SWC loaded heavy - its entrance hole was bigger than any of the hollowpoints ever managed, and it out-penetrated any of them. An LBT FN bullet would do even better! No need for expansion when the bullet is big enough to begin with. And a wide, flat nose destroys everything it comes in contact with.

  • Hawley

    9/6/2012 12:29:17 PM

    As a 29 year veteran in law enforcement, there is one simple solution as I advised my wife who carries a .22 caliber S&W 8 round revolver. Someone assaults you, you empty your gun on them, period. I carry a .45 ACP loaded with 14 rounds of Double Tap 230 grain rounds. I won't try to stop anyone with a single shot. You keep firing until the threat goes down. The article appears to have had extensive research done but addresses a "one shot" scenario. No one is Clint Eastwood. Expect to fire multiple rounds to drop the creep. Simple.

  • James

    9/6/2012 12:03:56 PM

    I carried a S&W 44mag until forced by dept to use a semi auto. I found the Glock 40cal provided the power and reliability that I demanded. I have observed the stopping power of the 44mag, It was impressive and Terminal. Also I never felt outgunned with my S&W 44mag. This is one instance where size does matter, I believe I carried Hydra shock in 44mag and then later Hydra Shock 40cal. Exit wounds were substanial with both calibers.

  • Paul

    9/6/2012 11:59:53 AM

    Wonder why they skipped 22 Magnum?

  • mater

    9/6/2012 11:33:31 AM

    what no 44 data? and little hornady data ive done extensive testing myself and found that the xtp from hornady is top notch in expansion and wieght retention which was not covered in this article.experianced handloaders can get much better results in most calibers. why so little data on the 357?

  • Gerald

    9/6/2012 11:09:39 AM

    A lot of buildup in the article but no real conclusions until the last paragraph. Do we have to comb through all those tables to conclude which bullet/gun provides the best stopping power? Why not just draw some basic conclusions for readers with only a small amount of knowledge of the subject but still want to own a gun that will stop the intruder most effectively?

  • John

    9/6/2012 11:31:17 AM

    Looks like I made a good choice with those Speer Gold Dot 9mm +p's.

  • JIm L

    9/6/2012 9:10:53 AM

    I have to agree with others who are disappointed that you left out 357SIG while including rounds that Grandma used to carry.

  • Bob

    9/6/2012 9:10:07 AM

    The Test Results tables inlude some results identified as "Short" or "medium" barrel, however I did not find barrel length discussed anywhere? How long is the "Standard" (or "Long") barrel used for each caliber? How long is the Medium or Short barrel for each? For example, 9mm ammo is supposed to be optimized for short barrels, however these results show significant compromise (velocity and expansion) of some ammo in short barrels. This is potential ammo choice concern when you have a "Full size" for Home and a Compact (short barrel) in same caliper for carry.

  • Cdr. P. w. PRAWL, SR. USN RET

    9/6/2012 10:03:56 AM

    As usual, .22 mag ignored-again.

  • Terminator

    9/6/2012 8:48:33 AM

    So a 9 mm with an expansion factor of 1.5 is equivalent to a 45 cal with an expansion factor of 1.5 if both have similar penetration? Probably not so instead of listing expansion factor, why not list expansion size instead?

  • GeezerGeek

    9/6/2012 8:33:14 AM

    If inflicting pain is the primary goal, how about a .410 load of size 4 shot from a Judge? Your range of fire with such a load is limited but it makes a head shot easier. It may not kill but an attacker is unlikely to continue an attack with his face ripped apart with such a load. The Judge is a bit bulky for concealed carry though.

  • Your NameCal

    9/6/2012 9:04:16 AM

    180 grain + P jhp in 10mm for EDC [(]G-29[)] I've never seen available the light load [(]85 grain[)] 10mm shown tested... With 6' pen. showing poorly.

  • WoodenPlank

    9/5/2012 11:30:46 PM

    So, you can include .327Mag, and two different .32 loads... but no 357SIG?

  • Brittographer

    9/5/2012 10:48:54 PM

    Rats. I would wish to have seen the 9mm Winchester 147 grain JHP load I carry daily, and it would be interesting to see the .41 Magnum Winchester Silvertip loading, but I guess he did test 100 different loads...

  • R ZAGARELLA

    9/5/2012 10:06:13 PM

    THE RBCD ROUNDS IN ANY CALIBER BEAT OUT ALL OF THESE RESULTS. THEY HAVE A HIGHER MUZZLE VELOCITY, MORE KENETIC ENERGY ON IMPACT, AND A LARGER CAVITY. THEY WON'T GO THROUGH A PERSON, ELIMINATING OTHER PEOPLE GETTING HURT. CHECK IT OUT.

  • possum

    9/5/2012 8:46:09 PM

    I have always and will always carry 44 mag if it will take down a bear man don't stand a chance think about it what would you rather have as your back up

  • SGG

    9/5/2012 6:22:21 PM

    wheres all the HORNADY rounds in .45 acp???(custom,critical defense,etc.etc..)

  • Chris Chambers

    9/5/2012 7:21:57 PM

    I found this very interesting. I have always favored velocity, over caliber or weight. It would be interesting to see the data for a .357 sig.

  • j. w

    9/5/2012 7:12:22 PM

    Intreting read. I carry .380 auto defensive rounds. Much ballyhooed as marginally good or marginally bad. So why carry it? I can...easily concealed, easy controlled, and with its laser sights i figure 6+1 fast, well placed rounds better than 15 rnds of .44 mag that miss.

  • D Odom

    9/5/2012 5:38:35 PM

    It doesn't matter what caliber/bullet you miss with. Practice & carry.

  • T. Sladden

    9/5/2012 4:21:46 PM

    As ususal the 357 sig is ignored.

  • Josh

    9/5/2012 3:10:00 PM

    Hmm, I'm not sure why the "expansion factor" would be more informative than the final diameter. If a for example a .38 expands by a factor of 1.6 and a .45 expands by a factor of 1.4, the resulting slug from the .45 will still be larger.

  • David

    9/5/2012 3:33:45 PM

    I'm surprised by some of the obscure calipers tested. Why did .32 ACP not make the list.. I know it's not as popular as .380 is now, but I think a lot of us would like to see where it stacks up.

  • DaveO

    9/5/2012 2:10:58 PM

    The Glaser Safety slug had the least penetration, but I think I'd probably hate to get shot with that more than a lot of the others. I might live, but the doctors will have one heck of a time getting all that out of my body.

  • Paladin

    9/5/2012 1:52:50 PM

    Excellent article. Major weakness: after explaining why adequate penetration should be of primary importance, he goes on to list the penetration results. He forgot to state what range of penetration is considered "adequate" and why. Thus, although we have the penetration test results, we do not know how to interpret them. IIRC, acc to the FBI and/or IWBA, in standardized 10% gelatin, 12" - 16" is ideal.

  • ethib

    9/5/2012 1:41:25 PM

    So the avg 40 s&w is better than an avg 45 acp? Does this then mean unless you're willing to spend more on high quality 45, 40 s&w is the way to go?

  • Thea Vogel

    9/5/2012 2:35:27 PM

    I would exercise my rights to carry if it wasn't so hard to obtain [(]and keep renewed[)] a carry permit in my state [(]RI[)].

  • William Ritchie

    9/5/2012 1:20:24 PM

    GREAT article! Did I miss a conclusion. Not being a handgun ballistics expert, I fear I may err in my analysis of so much data. Thank you, again, for sharing.

  • Northern-Lights

    8/29/2012 6:31:36 PM

    The best cartridge it the one you are carrying. If you don't carry, you are not prepared. Carry and practice! From the charts above, all the hoopla about caliber seems petty. All of them listed showed that they are capable. Pick the right gun for the carry situation and put the right ammo in it. But most important....exercise ALL your rights. Not just the 1st, the 5th, the 10th....but also the 2nd! Carry daily.

  • J.Baker

    8/29/2012 6:20:54 PM

    No 44spl/mag?