1911s Tighter

In a recent blog, I talked about the differences between the M1911 and M1911A1 pistols. A number of readers were kind enough to write in with favorable comments, which are much appreciated. If this kind of commentary is of use to my readers, I’ll try to include more of it in these electronic pages. Let me know what you would like to hear about and I’ll try to meet those requests.

I was delighted to hear from a reader named John Browning. No, it wasn’t the famous one that died in 1926, but rather a gentleman named John W. Browning. He was inquisitive about the quality of the original 1911-era pistols being made to tighter specs than later guns. This is a matter that surfaces from time to time. To answer the question, I contacted one of the nation’s best pistolsmiths, who also happens to be a serious M1911/M1911A1 collector. He once had the opportunity to detail strip M1911 pistol, No. 9.

From this background, he replied instantly to the question: “Are original 1911s made to tighter specs than later ones?” No, they were not. Intended for rough service in field conditions, the 1911 was developed and produced with a certain amount of room for crud to accumulate before cleaning. The military services are often maniacal about clean weapons of all kinds, but they are realistic enough to know that there are times when it’s impossible. The first use of the 1911 may have been in the Punitive expedition into Mexico in 1916, which was a very sandy, dusty environment. For good reason, there is no major difference in specs for GI 1911s.

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3 Responses to 1911s Tighter

Jerry in Arizona wrote:
July 30, 2013

To expand just a tad. I will not vouch for the accuracy of this story. 1911's were in fact issued during the Mexican war. One of the participants who was issued a 1911 had an accidental discharge in a restaurant. That's why that officer, General George Patton, preferred to carry revolvers.

Dave Meyer wrote:
July 30, 2013

Any M1911 or A1 built to original specs is normally a very reliable side arm as stated. The trouble comes in some of the modern after-market ones built to very tight tolerances. There is a trade-off between accuracy and reliability. When submitting a request to makers for for a entry for the new M1911 Meu-Soc Pistol, The Marine Corps listed a requirement of 'Semi' Match accurate. Meaning accurate enough to place well aimed shots into bad guys but still reliable. In other words, a good fighting hand gun.

Bob wrote:
July 25, 2013

Thanks for the insight Wiley. So many think that the last good guns were built in the 60's. There have been some nice modern ones.