.380—What You Use to Fight Your Way to a Handgun

In our offices, we often discuss issues that matter—at least to us—such as carry guns. One American Rifleman staffer carries a Ruger LCP in .380 ACP with Winchester PDX1 on a daily basis. While this staffer was visiting the office of American Hunter Managing Editor Jeff Johnston (we don’t have the budget for a water cooler), the host came up with a line that is not entirely original, yet completely relevant. “You carry a .380? That’s what you use to fight your way to your pistol.” This is, of course, is a play on firearms trainer Clint Smith’s axiom: “The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down.”

I have written previously on the fact that men that I rely on for solid advice on personal protection don’t think a lot of the .380 ACP as a fightstopper. To them it is marginal, at the bottom end of the minimum. Mike Parker once said on “American Rifleman Television”—again not entirely original—“While a 9 millimeter may expand, a .45 won’t shrink.”  While a .45 ACP has more power than a 9 mm Luger, and a 9 mm (Johnston’s preferred sub-caliber device) has more power than a .380 ACP, size and weight make a big difference as to whether or not a gun is carried daily. It is better to have a .380 in your pocket holster than a .44 Mag. in your safe. And a six-shot .380 is better than an aluminum baseball bat that won’t ship for three weeks.

It used to be that 9 mm Luger was considered marginal for personal protection, but now that 9 mm pistols are designed to be similar in size and weight to the in-vogue .380s, we are seeing a surge in interest in micro-compact, single-stack, recoil-operated 9 mms by consumers who lawfully exercise their Right-to-Carry. Kel-Tec and Kahr Arms led the way on micro 9 mm Luger pistols, with Taurus not far behind. Now we have guns such as the Kimber Solo (look for it on the cover of the September issue of your Rifleman), the Ruger LC9, SIG Sauer P290, Diamondback DB9 and others. We have also seen a report of Beretta's entry to this class, the Nano, but so far we have not had a chance to examine it, so I can offer no opinion.

My bottom line on the .380? The gun you are willing to carry, especially when inconvenient, is the right gun for you. I have a couple of the new generation .380 ACP recoil-operated guns, including a Ruger LCP and a Diamondback—as well as my trusty S&W 442 and a well-worn SIG Sauer P232. Any of these, while not a Springfield SOCOM II, are preferable to nothing at all.

One of the most disturbing images I have viewed was the security camera still (Orwell would be so proud) of a Londoner ignominiously handing his pants to a hooded looter during the riots earlier this month. With one of the natural rights of Englishmen—the right of self-defense of yourself and others—stripped away, property, possessions, collective safety and dignity sure didn’t take long to follow. The principal means of self-defense available to subjects in that land were back-ordered baseball bats from Amazon.co.uk. I assure you, the only way a pipe-wielding hooded thug threatening my life is getting my pants is after the second magazine is empty and the slide locked back.  And he’ll likely have to crawl over a pile of hot brass headstamped “FC 380 Auto.”  

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9 Responses to .380—What You Use to Fight Your Way to a Handgun

Greg wrote:
September 10, 2013

'The gun you are willing to carry, especially when inconvenient, is the right gun for you.' Exactly right. The relative power of a carry firearm is somewhat irrelevant if you don't discuss it in the context of carry. A 9mm is better than .380 and an AR-15 is better than a 9mm. Unfortunately it's not practical to carry an AR around all day. If you're willing to carry a 1911 around 24/7, that's an excellent choice, and sure it's a good deal better than a .380. But most people simply aren't going to do that. Having a small .380 allows me to have a pistol where the alternative would be to have nothing. Obviously shot placement and the deterrent of just having a gun on you are factors too.

Butch wrote:
February 24, 2013

I am 67 and had a young buck come at me. He was 6'4' 260 but when i pulled out Sig .380 he turned and ran like a scared jack rabbit. Be ready.

Fred wrote:
September 09, 2011

I have to ask myself "How would I feel in this situation?" Probably underarmed if all I had was a.380ACP. Next I have to turn the situation around and ask, "How would I like being shot at in a close contact situation, with multiple rounds being fired at me at no more than 6 or 7 yards (or less)?" Kinda gives a different perspective on the lethality of the .308, doesn't it?

Greg B wrote:
August 29, 2011

I have had a Taurus TCP for about 5 months equipped with a CT lazer It has a god pattern at 10 or 15 feet. But that's what it's for. Better than a baseball bat.

madderhatter wrote:
August 29, 2011

I can guarantee you if someone is coming at me with a pipe, knife, bat, etc., and I pull out a .380 they will stop in their tracks. Then they'll probably drop what they were carrying and turn tail. If some one is coming at you with a gun (that will already be drawn and pointed at you) you're done unless you are lightning fast with a concealed carry draw or the badguy completely misses you. He'll shoot as soon as he sees you going for yours. If you get the draw and get the first hit most thugs will run. If not, let the fire fight begin and find cover. I carry a .380 Bodyguard daily. If I'm getting out of my truck in a real bad location the Judge Public Defender comes along. First round - 000 buck. Next round - .45LC. Repeat. Why the Judge with 00 ? Because 99% of the encounters will be close up and someone getting 4, .33 cal balls in them at 850fps won't stand around long. If they do, hello .45LC. I suppose I could wear a trench coat and string on a 12ga Shorty. :o) Just my point of view of course.

Terry Webb wrote:
August 29, 2011

.380 is just fine for self defense. Just make sure you have a VERY large magazine capacity or multiple magazines and a fast exchange rate.

ntrudr_800 wrote:
August 28, 2011

Man, that incident is horrible. What's worse is that obviously the looter did not need the man's pants. That's just wrong! I am sure that God will punish us for our sins against our neighbors.

Tony Kammerer wrote:
August 26, 2011

Great article and nice idioms. .380 should work if you do your part, and having it on you is certainly what will matter most.

Eddie Rabbitt wrote:
August 25, 2011

I've seen Johnston on TV, and I reccomend, if you find yourself in a fight, to just toss Johnston at your attacker's ankles.