A Blowback 9 mm?

There are two basic types of automatic pistol mechanisms, known as actions. One is the blowback; while the other is known as recoil operated. Both accomplish the same thing: The breech is held closed until the bullet exits the muzzle before using the residual energy to extract and eject the spent case, load another cartridge and close the breech.

A blowback system is simpler, easier to manufacture and usually more compact.  A recoil-operated system uses some form of mechanical lock—over-center toggle, rotating barrel, pivoting block or tilting barrel—to lock the barrel and slide together until the bullet exits the muzzle and pressure drops. 

For many years, the blowback type used a rather heavy slide and strong spring to do this, while the recoil-operated guns used one of the mentioned locks. It was customary for pistols of .380 and smaller to be blowback, with guns chambered for 9 mm Luger and larger to be recoil-operated guns. The 9 mm was a de facto dividing line and there were no exceptions. In the interest of building a smaller and more easily concealable gun of greater power, several firms tried to make a blowback 9 mm. Walther tried twice, so did Astra and the most recent effort was the S&W SW9. All of these guns were plain failures. So, is it possible to make a blowback 9 mm?

Of course it is.

And it has been done quite successfully. Consider the innovative Heckler & Koch VP70. Among other distinctions, the gun had a polymer-covered steel receiver, brilliantly designed sights, rugged trigger mechanism and blowback operation. But the resulting gun was so big that it could not realistically fulfill any normal pistol role and fell into some gray area between service pistol and submachine gun.  This is true of several other firearms that ended up being oddities and not widely distributed firearms. 

The irony of this situation lies in the modern designer's discovery that you can make a very small .380 pistol—if you use a recoil-operated breech locking system.

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9 Responses to A Blowback 9 mm?

Alton Moore wrote:
November 12, 2011

I have the Hi-Point 9mm carbine, and I think it's great. It was cheap, it is accurate, and the company stands behind it. I was also told by a gun shop that the pistols were well liked by customers, and at $189 for a 9mm (when I asked), they are pretty good deals. The only drawback on these is the smallish magazine capacity, but the operation is simple and reliable on these guns.

Bill wrote:
November 11, 2011

While they work, I can't recommend any of the HiPoint products. I had the 9mm carbine and it was quite chinsy. The iron sights did not have adequate travel even for 25 yard targets, and the trigger was mushy. It worked and was cheap, but I was glad to get rid of it. As for the handguns, you get what you pay for.

PeterC wrote:
November 10, 2011

I have an Astra 400, in 9mm Bergman or Largo caliber, actually a longer 9mm. It was used quite successfully for many years by the Spanish military and the Germans, and it is a blowback. The old Spanish Jo-Lo-Ar, a spur-trigger auto, was chambered in various calibers up to .45 ACP, and was also a blowback.

Pete wrote:
November 10, 2011

Didn't I read an article in the American Rifleman about the Hi-Points, including the .45, which is blowback operated? My son's friend owns a Hi-Point .45 which does look a bit rugged compared to my son's Colt Gold Cup.

Steve Funk wrote:
November 09, 2011

Have you ever posted a review of the Hi-Point products? They've been producing successful blowback 9mm, .40, & .45 pistols and carbines for a number of years. They are made in the good ol' U.S of A and very reasonably priced.

rMike wrote:
November 08, 2011

I remember a 9mm known as the Swedish K during my RVN years that was a blowback. Anybody else remember those?

tchall wrote:
November 08, 2011

The VP70S/Z was a great idea, but not so great in operation. It took a weight lifter to pull back the slide and you'd better have worked out on a finger exerciser if you actually intended to work the trigger. Not so fantastic plastic at all. WORST trigger pull I've ever experiences ever! I was appalled by the civilian model, and the auto version carried by the German Polizi Motorcycle Cops wasn't much better even after their armors did their best... On the other hand... The Peter's Stal/Stringfield Omega Multicaliber pistols converted to blowback when shooting .38 Spec Flush Seated Wadcutters. The locking lug was left off the top of that barrel. Mine shoots to the same point of aim with Major IPSC .45ACP loads and target loads in .38 Spec.

Mike Hill wrote:
November 08, 2011

He made no mention of Hi Point. My Hi Point 9mm is blowback operated. It is heavy, and rather ugly. Put it shoots 1/2 inch groups at 15 yards. It is made in the USA, and sells for under $200.00. In some cases they can be purchased NIB online for under $15.00.

Gary wrote:
November 07, 2011

Actually, this is a pretty neat pistol. It was the first polymer-framed pistol and predates the Glock 17 by 12 years. And, at 28.9 oz, it is just another "regular" sized pistol. Here is a video showing it mounted on the stock/holster and firing semi-auto and 3-round bursts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BecoTGcz8T8 As far as even having blow-back pistols, all you need is enough slide weight and spring to keep things closed until the bullet exits, as Mr. Clapp points out. And enough muscle to operate the slide against that heavy spring. If there was a blow-back pistol made with a "fold out" assist to grab on to and used to open the slide against the heavy spring, why not? And, of course, a really strong magazine spring to make sure the next round gets pushed up before the slide goes screaming shut. I'm waiting for the .45 ACP model to come out.