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Hornady's Critical Defense Triple Threat .410 Shotshell (Page 2)

With the popularity of .45 Colt/.410 handguns, ammunition companies were bound to introduce specialized loads. But do loads like Hornady’s Triple Threat perform as advertised?

The hollow bases of the FTX slugs from this batch of shells did not expand enough to engage the rifling of the handgun barrels, which is the purpose of the slug’s design. In fact, the slugs displayed no rifling marks at all. Checking the base expansion with digital calipers confirmed what the visual inspection implied. No slug base expanded more than .444 inches when fired from a handgun, which means they were unlikely to engage the lands and grooves of a barrel designed for .454-inch .45 Colt bullets.

The polymer-tipped hollow points of the slugs showed very little to no expansion in five of the seven guns tested. In a few cases the unexpanded slug stopped in the gel facing backwards (tip toward the shooter). Was this dual failure to expand a fluke or a flaw? I've seen the same photos and gel tests, with fully expanded FTX Slugs, as everyone else. So what was the problem in this case? I can't say for sure. The rounds used for these tests were some of the very first Triple Threat loads off of the production line. Were the slugs in this batch made of a harder lead alloy? Were the powder charges off a bit? Or does Hornady have to go back and take another look at the design? Only time will tell for sure.

So, is the performance of the new Hornady Triple Threat .410 shotshell up to snuff? Based on these tests, it seems likely that the Triple Threat shell has been optimized for use in the Taurus Judge 2½-inch chamber, 3-inch barrel revolver. It also performs well when fired from a defensive shotgun. However, other short-barrel handguns may or may not produce sufficient levels of performance for self-defense. If Hornady can adjust the FTX slugs to expand fully at the base of the slug, then this round has the potential to become a top contender in this handgun ammunition class. For a complete set of test results, see the following table. For more information on .410 handgun and shotshell performance, visit 410Handguns.com.

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4 Responses to Hornady's Critical Defense Triple Threat .410 Shotshell (Page 2)

H Stan Boring PHC USN Ret wrote:
November 06, 2013

One version of the old Minie ball had a wood sabot in the rear cavity, to expand the base into the rifling. Perhaps this or a softer lead/tin mix would accomplish the desired purpose of expanding the slug. Has anyone eperimented with this? Otherwise the comments regarding the inefficiency of the load tested seem on target. Chief Boring

BigFoot wrote:
October 25, 2013

Excellent post, NRV. The idea that someone would go to all the trouble of hauling one of these things around just to shoot .45 Colts makes absolutely no sense; their primary function is to shoot shot shells, and only at very close range before velocity is lost and their patterns open up to the point of being worthless. From these tests and others available on the Internet, the myth of having 'shotgun power' available in a handgun is destroyed. At the short ranges these revolvers are used, there is an absence of overwhelming stopping power, deep penetration, and large holes, the three requirements of a great self-defense weapon. If forced to use one, I would load up with #6 shot and aim for the face. But don't forget that the patterns are tight at close range so you still have to be capable of hitting your target as if you were firing a single projectile. And if we are that good of a shot, we could just bring a .22 and make head shots. I know two men who have bought one of these revolvers for their wife to carry in her purse or tummy pack, the idea being that she would simply let loose a cloud of shot in the general direction of the bad guy and he would immediately expire, as if ripped apart by a blast from a 12-gauge shotgun. Nobody seemed to mind that probably 90[%] of the shot would miss the target and continue downrange. It must be that some folks have so many guns at home they are desperately looking for a new one, something different, to add to their collection. Why else would an otherly-rational person buy one?

NRVOUTDOORSMAN wrote:
October 24, 2013

The whole idea of a .410/.45 Colt pistol is ridiculous on its face. At 21 feet or less (the standard for 'legitimate' use of deadly force) the .45 Colt is a FAR better option tna any .410 as a defensive load; and the lighter projectiles thrown by the shotshell (regardless of make or type) are always going to have less penetration than the 250-grain bullet of the .45 Colt. These guns, all of them, are pretty much gimmicks: given the weight and size of even a polymer-framed .410/.45, someone would be far better served carrying a titanium-framed Taurus revolver in .45 Colt, or a Charter Bulldog in .44 Special. If you can't hit a man 7 yards away with a single projectile, spewing a few small ones from a 'shotgun' isn't likely to solve your problems. The only 'practical' use for a pistol/shotgun hybrid is as a defense against snakes. Here, a .38 or .45 loaded with shotshells is as good or better; but I have one of those single-shot 'Leinad'' derringers in .410/.45 in my tackle box for this purpose. By the way, with the .45 Colt its recoil is so great as to make me almost drop it. With the .410 and #7-1/2 or #9 it will do a snake. But a human? No way would I choose one of these guns--any of these guns--for a defensive piece.

B P wrote:
October 19, 2013

OK... So, since I'm not interested in Rifled Pistol Performance... am I imagining things, or would this be a right dandy Deer Load (where legal/required) for my .410 Levergun? Sure looks like it... at least @ 20 feet. I wonder how it would perform @ 35-50 yds?...