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Taurus Judge Ammunition: Feeding the Judge (Page 2)

Federal, Remington and Winchester have all developed self-defense loads for .45 Colt/.410-bore revolvers.

The third Federal load was the 3-inch shell with five 000 pellets. Although more than 400 fps slower than the other big buckshot load, the dispersion was much the same, with 17 of the 25 pellets in the center circle and the other eight inside the eight ring. Even dispersion, indeed.

Remington’s nominal 00 load was the fastest of any tested and produced significant recoil. On the target only three of the pellets found the center circle, but 15 were in the 8-inch ring and only two more strayed outside to the 12-inch circle. This simply means that the Remington offering stays inside the 8-inch circle just like the others, but spreads more evenly within that space. Because of the load’s velocity, it delivers a harder blow than any other load tested.

Winchester Ammunition, you will recall, used a completely different approach when crafting loads for the .410 handgun. It offers two loads in this series, both with a combination of their “Defense Discs” and BB shot. A 2½-inch load works with three discs and 12 BBs, and its 3-inch version uses four discs and 16 BBs. Since the discs are .40 caliber, they are supposed to engage the rifling in the bore and become stabilized, leaving the following column of BBs to spread over a greater area. In my five-round group with each of the two versions, that appears to be exactly what happened. The discs tend to produce small patterns, but the BBs that follow them create an even pattern that is centered around the Discs’ points of impact.

Conclusions
These new .410 loads are a curious development driven by the current interest in ever-more efficient self-defense guns and ammunition. Close-range use of multiple-projectile firearms is a valid concept. As far as the six tested loads are concerned, two are the efficient, 3-inch type. The Judge revolver that takes them is significantly larger and heavier, so some handgunners will choose the shorter, lighter Judge for concealed carry. Of the four remaining, one is better suited to pests than criminals. The three remaining are the ones most likely to be used. There’s one from each maker and they are all effective man-stoppers.

Other makers may be entering the .45/.410 ammunition arena. I have heard of new .410 handgun loads from off-shore makers, but I lacked samples to include in this shoot. It’s also interesting that Smith & Wesson recently announced a .410 revolver called the Governor that also shoots both .45 Colt and .45 ACP with moon clips. It isn’t out in quantity yet. We are bound to see more variations in both guns and ammunition in the future. I would offer one cautionary note: Multiple projectile systems work on the basis of terminal effect, not hit probability. In other words, you shoot in the hopes of striking a decisive blow, not to increase your chances of a hit. For that reason, I like buckshot loads that pattern tightly. But the tighter the group, the easier it is to miss. Hardware, no matter how cleverly contrived, will never make up for sloppy shooting. Shot placement matters.

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14 Responses to Taurus Judge Ammunition: Feeding the Judge (Page 2)

JD wrote:
June 13, 2013

I have the public defender ( 3in? stainless ) that I gave to the wife. In every 3in shell the end crimp expanded and blocked the cyl from rotating. Went with the 2.5 in and all loads function perfect, from super X to remington #8 The wife loves the weapon!

David wrote:
January 23, 2013

I just purchased a Judge with a 6 in barrell. Will it shoot 3 inch 410 shells? And what 45's will it shoot?

Vince wrote:
May 30, 2012

Why keep a shotgun in the closet? The judge is a great weapon use it!!

eg73 wrote:
March 21, 2012

what about nobel 2.5 in 3-ball .40 buckshot no one can tell me why its not recomended for the judge. $65 for 250 rounds?

reader wrote:
March 01, 2012

No. You can't use .45 ACP in the judge.

docwhite wrote:
March 01, 2012

I am unclear as to what .45 ammo is appropriate for my Judge (3"). Will my supply of Winchester PDX1 Defender 45 auto 230 gr. do the job?

Kid2Nite wrote:
February 01, 2012

I considered the mossberg 500 for home defense but even with its 18.5" barrel, swinging it around on a staircase or around a corner gave me pause. I picked up the "judge" so instead of being woken up and fumbling around in the closet at 2am; I just reach into the nightstand. Also at 2am I wouldn't need to aim in the dark.....with the gun loaded alternately, just point then get personal with the .45 if needed

RS Lewis wrote:
December 20, 2011

Test fired Federal Premium 3" 410 000BK from Taurus Judge 3" Barrel w/ 3" cylinder. Out of 40 rnds, 5 jammed but when freed all ejected and had not siezed in the cylinder. This is a serious issue that Federal must resolve before advertising this as defensive ammo for the Taurus Judge.

Fred Cole wrote:
November 28, 2011

The federal ammo in 410 3 in. cases swell at the butt and jam up the gun. I tried some #4's and some buckshot.. same result Federal needs to address this problem for the Judge

frankie wrote:
October 12, 2011

Well fella's...I understand the 410 is great for home defense because it won't enter your neighbors apt. leaving you with an unexpected tragedy.

Chris Barker wrote:
September 20, 2011

Why in the world would you use a .410 for home defense? Pick up a 12 gauge and be done with it. Now for carry, especially in a vehicle, the .410 Judge or Governor are very tough to beat.

donnie wrote:
September 01, 2011

BAD SKIN RASH??? HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY TARGET WITH THE JUDGE AND SEE WHAT KIND OF SKIN RASH YOU GET LOL

Erick wrote:
July 28, 2011

All of the testing you did failed to address the major concern with the Judge: penetration. Pattern size doesn't mean much when all an attacker gets is a mean skin rash from the shot.

Todd Andersen wrote:
July 28, 2011

I wonder how well these loads would work in a home defense .410 shotgun, like the Mossberg 500 Cruiser with an 18.5” cylinder bore barrel and pistol grip?