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AR Operating Systems

By Cameron Hopkins

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An Answer In Search Of A Question
The sole claim to fame of a piston system is that it’s more reliable than an impingement system. The reason given is that hot, dirty gases are not spewed into the action of the rifle like the direct impingement system, fouling itself with heat and carbon, depositing black crud all over the bolt carrier. Instead, the gases are contained in a gas cylinder which is self-cleaning.

No one asserts that piston systems are more accurate or more durable, just that they’re more reliable because the bolt carrier is not caked with fouling and subjected to scalding heat.

Advocates of the piston system are quick to ask, “Why would you dump hot, dirty gases where your rifle feeds?”

There’s no question that heat and fouling are highly detrimental to moving parts in a firearm. The solution, however, does not necessarily require redesigning the whole gun. Fouling problems can be avoided quite easily with a marvelous little thing called lubrication.

“Keep her wet. That’s how you run an AR,” a hard-bitten range master once told me. “I don’t care what you squirt in there—BreakFree, WD-40, lime juice. It doesn’t matter. Soak her good.”

A good friend of mine, Sgt. Jason Davis of the Arcadia (Calif.) Police Department, has an M4 carbine with more than 2,500 rounds through it without cleaning. “I just keep it lubed,” he said. “I run it with a suppressor too, so it gets even dirtier. I’ve never had a malfunction, not one.”

Davis is not a glutton for punishing his gun. His no-cleaning test came about by chance.

“At first, I just didn’t get around to cleaning it, but after awhile, I realized I had a sort of torture test going without intending to. I wondered how long I could go without cleaning my M4, so I made a point of logging the rounds and just didn’t clean the gun. I lube it up before every session,” the lawman said.

I’ve never gone that far, but I’ve fired 1,500 rounds without cleaning, but I keep my bolt carrier wet. Reliability is not an issue with liberal lubrication.

Accordingly, it’s my opinion based on personal experience and a lot of anecdotal evidence that Eugene Stoner’s gas impingement system works as advertised. The piston system guns are, as the late Col. Jeff Cooper liked to say, “An ingenious solution to a nonexistent problem.”

Unintended Consequences
Even if you take the argument of the piston system at face value—that it’s more reliable—you still have the law of unintended consequences to deal with. First, piston guns generate more felt recoil than impingement guns (although that’s not a huge detriment since we’re talking about a 5.56 mm here, a “poodle shooter” as Col. Cooper sniffed).

More importantly, however, a piston system alters the mechanics and timing of an AR in a manner that a growing number of shooters are claiming is harmful to the gun.

There are new systems being developed, tested and marketed now, but generally the problem is that a piston system is attempting to retroactively adapt a bolt carrier that was designed to function with direct impingement.

What we’re seeing are piston systems substituted for the gas tube of an impingement system by simply inserting a piston into the mechanism. The same buffer system is used to return the bolt carrier into battery, the same geometry of the bolt carrier is utilized and the same timing of the cycle rate is retained.

The only difference, really, is that a piston system gives the bolt carrier a mighty whack with a piston instead of blowing gas into it. The geometry is the same. The area of the bolt carrier that is being impacted by the piston is where the gas key would be on an impingement system. In fact, many of the piston systems simply replace the gas key on the bolt carrier with a flat-faced nubbin that is the anvil to the piston’s hammer.

This protrusion is attached to the bolt carrier well ahead (toward the muzzle) of its center of gravity. Going back to see-saw 101, we realize that if a force is applied well in front of a pivot, what happens? The rear tilts.

This see-saw effect is causing bolt carriers to tilt within the receiver, retarding their movement and imparting a non-linear force to the assembly. Stoner did not design the bolt carrier group to be hammered.

Perhaps the most “tacti-cool” of the piston systems is the HK 416 which came into the U.S. originally as a “military only” firearm in 2004 and then, much later, trickled out to law enforcement. The lure of forbidden fruit seemed to hype the public’s interest in the 416 and caused quite a bit of Internet chatter.

Then comes price. Ruger introduced a piston system AR—the SR15—that retails for over $2,000. I found an M4 from one of the more popular piston-gun makers listed on for $1,925. At the same time you can buy an excellent direct impingement AR for around $1,000.

At this fork in the road, I’m grabbing a bottle of BreakFree and taking the impingement path.

For more, check out Customizing an AR Rifle, AR-15 Tactical Accessories, The Specs of MilSpec and The MilSpec Definition.

 

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  • glocksigfnh

    2/23/2013 2:54:58 PM

    Re: Joakley The Sig 556 series of rifles and pistols have adjustable piston operating systems base on the Swiss Arms 551 rifle. The 516 and 716 rifles also use an adjustable piston operating system, but maintain the look, feel and function of an AR-style rifle.

  • Joakley

    1/27/2013 2:39:42 AM

    The Sig 556 is a DI, its the Sig 516 and 716 that are Pistons

  • michael

    11/24/2012 9:50:44 PM

    Use the powder the gun was designed for and it will run fine.My prob with DI is gas rings,keep plenty of spares or you're out of bussiness.My piston AR uses no gas rings and uses any mill spec bolt.

  • michael

    11/24/2012 9:43:08 PM

    I guess a gun that can't shoot all calibers is unreliable too?My car has 12/1 compression runs fine on super unld designed for it.

  • gt762

    9/12/2012 6:22:23 AM

    A gun that is picky about the type of gunpowder it burns from its cartridges is not reliable... if your car could only run with one particular brand of gas would you call it reliable?

  • Paul List

    7/17/2012 12:17:28 PM

    history says this;If the AR had been able to use the ammo it was designed to shoot. Witch it was not.Us had a contract with Olin for powder to power the ammo of the M-14 oh is that a gas impingement rifle? And so to keep out of a law suit US decided to down load the ammo or allow ammo not designed for the AR to be manufactured.So now we have dirty ammo only because US shortcut to keep out of court. Call that strike 1. Then the US knows from experince all about chromed chambers and bore.Ignored to promote speed of build and $$. Stike 2. This is the equivilant of substituting kerosene for high test gas and not making nessasery changes in system to acomodate the change.The M1 rifle & cabine,the M14 and countless other guns all have proven to perform superbly, or nearly as any of the direct blowback systems.

  • David

    3/28/2012 12:03:32 PM

    I own a DPMS SASS(AR-10) .308 and a SCAR 17s chambered in .308. No, they're not .223's, but both are great weapons to shoot. BUT, if I had to compare I would take the SCAR hands down. The ease of operation, disassembly, lack of fouling, and low recoil make it an easy choice. Every person, and I mean every single person that have shot both rifles back to back prefer the SCAR. Don't get me wrong, the AR platform is a tried and true platform and I enjoy my AR, but it is outdated and needs improvement to meet the competition head-on. The M-14 was was preferred in Vietnam over the M-16 by all soldiers who could aquire one, and that is definitely not new news. Gas piston AR's do have some advantages over their direct impingement brethren, however, starting ground-up would make the most sense so that the latest advancements can be utilized in the design to help the soldiers in the field and the civilians at the range.

  • Dave

    3/4/2012 8:33:51 AM

    The argument of "keeping it wet" is misleading. The carbon deposits are simply being redirected to some other location in the mechanism to collect over time. You'll still pay the piper and it will likely cost more in time required to truly clean out the system. Avoiding the deposits in the first place is the best way, IMO.

  • Josh

    2/20/2012 5:14:03 PM

    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't a DI AR just damage your bolt over time, and bolt assembly's cost a fraction of what your paying in extra $ for a piston AR? If it ain't broke don't fix it IMO

  • Dan

    2/19/2012 6:58:18 PM

    the anti-piston people are just wrong period. some of you talk about respecting your weapon blah blah blah. the military has tested these weapons time and time again and the gas impingement looses everytime! the genrals in charge simply retort "98% is good enough" unbelievable that we send our troopps out with not 2nd or 3rd best but 4th! since Iraq and Afghanistan the military is finally starting to recognize the poor reliability in dirty environments. Many of you are end of the world conspiracy people so if this is what you belive you better get yourself a piston impingement or find yourself loosing to those of us that do have them. by the way, the pisten system is older than the the AR DGI.

  • Medic

    1/15/2012 1:20:13 PM

    The gas entering the bolt carier puts space between the carier and bolt. This force is inline with the barrel and recoil system.The rings on the bolt help seal in the gas, and the two holes in the carier vent these gases to atmosphere.Rings and vent holes all in line with the barrel. This is not the same geometry as the piston systen that exerts its force only to the top of the carier.

  • Larry

    12/11/2011 1:44:56 AM

    The piston system didn't work well in the M1 Garand? In the M-14? Remington 1100 shotgun et al?

  • Wulfkin

    9/13/2011 10:27:01 PM

    Check out Adcor Bear no carrier tilt and free floated barrel and no hot gas in your eye, all for around $1000 now is there a reason why NOT to get a piston?

  • PK

    8/21/2011 6:46:26 PM

    If your intention in getting a piston system is so that you won't have to clean it, don't get a gun at all. Respect your gear. I'm also not buying the "WD-40" as an answer to the impingement system dilemma of fouling the action. Hard to swallow the anti-piston argument in light of the AK success and durability. However, just sticking a piston in a gas tube sounds heretical and . . . stupid. It's unfortunate that the AR18 wasn't embraced as it could have been. The SIG is a piston system.

  • D

    8/20/2011 4:30:23 PM

    I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that the AR18 didn't use a gas impingment system because Armalite had sold the patents over to colt. At the time of the design of the AR18 Stoner had left Armalite and had no involvement in its design. Also Stoner preferred the impingement system over the piston.

  • JK

    8/5/2011 12:11:03 PM

    Uhhhh..... Nobody wants to mention the AR18... Stoner himself intended to "improve" the AR15 with a gas piston system.

  • V

    7/27/2011 1:25:45 AM

    FERFRANS Weapon System. Google it, Yahoo it, YouTube it, search for it.

  • blue

    7/27/2011 1:21:40 AM

    FERFRANS

  • albsr

    7/24/2011 10:29:05 AM

    for those of us that are still looking at the AR type I would like to know the maker of the "one piston gun that has beaten time after time"

  • V

    7/19/2011 11:42:57 PM

    All things evolve in life. Going to the moon was a dream and then became reality and so on in life. It would be a moronic to think that the AR platform can not evolve past a design made how many years ago? Not all piston guns are created equal. I have observed most of the brand name piston guns break (not going to mention names) but there is one piston gun out there that has beaten time after time every other AR made. Do your home work and keep an open mind (Chevy or Ford).... Oh brother here we go again. (if there are miss spelled works sorry, hard to comment from iphone)

  • lbsrdi

    3/8/2011 5:46:01 PM

    I believe my SIG 556 SWAT is not an impingment system. Am I correct?

  • Parasome

    2/26/2011 12:43:38 AM

    Gas piston system to many moving parts. In addition a weapon should be maintained and respected not neglected.